Thursday, November 13, 2008

Hipster Civil War, huh?

Yeah, my intuition is usually pretty good with this stuff - I was right to be excited yesterday.

Check out the hubub from Gawker.
Lotsa comments at Street Carnage.

And look up - my google ads are magically gone and I got the FUCK YOU letter from google. hmmmm, what a coincidence. Just everyone gimme a dollar, that'll sort me out. Fuck!

Everything feels uncertain in my little gay world - WAH my blog WAH - people getting their heads blown off in Iraq and blognigger's all: "WAH my BLOG! My google ads WAAAAAH."

anyway, sall good, as the dumb kids say.

31 comments:

Tony said...

BN, I just don't get it. I've been reading your column now for about six months, and yesterday's SC post just wasn't that offensive. Maybe I've become immune to your style, but I thought it was a pretty fair portrayal of how things are (esp. in NYC- when I was living there I couldn't believe how seriously some people took themselves when they were wearing skinny jeans and a fucking FEDORA for chrisssakes). Anyway, sucks about the google ads- I really thought they would have been noncommittal on this- you generate traffic, you make them money, why should it matter to them? Google is about directing traffic, right? I don't see them trying to polish their corporate logo- go type 'dildo' into their search engine and see how many sponsored links come up. How can what you write (which tends to be a touch cynical, wry, and almost always insightful and entertaining) be worse than advertising for a fakedick (noinsecurities)?

Anonymous said...

post the fuckyou letter from google, mk?

Seth said...

I'm baffled. I usually ignore your SC posts because they are totally anodyne-the real shit goes down here. I don't have any opinion on whether the Strokes are still uncool or not, or which cheap beer is acceptable, or whether Gavin unironically wants to suck Cheney's dick, etc etc.

Yesterday's post was along the usual lines. The whole point of hipstersdom is that it always applies to someone else...so I don't get who could have been offended by your post. Please clarify.

Anonymous said...

I desperately want to make love to a school boy....I mean blognigger.

Rusty said...

WTF? This again?

When will everyone just take a deep breath and get over themselves?

Yesterday's post was yesterday's post, nothing better, nothing worse.

ATTICA ATTICA ATTICA!!

o_w_g said...

Wow. You young uns sure do have a lot to say about what you have to say. It's been a fun read.

Ty said...

I am amused that there are kids who believe themselves to be some sort of original scene-sters (just like the kids who believe themselves to be OGs).

Natural cycles, I guess. Because that shit cycles every other generation from Ankeny to El Paso -- Can't I just give my kid the metaphorical denim vest with the Dead Kennedys patch as a Christmas gift and save her the trouble and hubris of believing she invented that shit? So she can do something else. Tough love is a bitch, I know but.... I'm just old and kind of over it maybe. Maybe just impatient as fuck. I get it for sure but it just looses all impact on us geriatrics. [Rocked a fedora in, what, '82?]

Original? Shit, Miles Davis was a sell-out poser in some circles. Bob Dylan? Copy cat wannabe. Even Richard Pryor was just another nigger. Are we over our acts yet?

And the Crips/Bloods honor/holy war over "scenes" wholly contrived is so masturbatory it's basically a humiliating form of bukakke self-fellatio.

Let's move on to the bigs and leave T-Ball to the children. Cynicism is just skepticism's retarded cousin.

o_w_g said...

bukakke self-fellatio

Ty you make me wet when you talk like that.

Anonymous said...

ty / owg

get a room you two

yankee balls said...

fuck off anon, glad ty is here...

now finally someone can clean up on the pussy that bn is too stuffed to eat!

Filthy Lucretius said...

I'm confused. Was that really your GBCW post on Streetcarnage?

If so, like the Post said to Patrick Ewing, good riddance. This blog is bigger, and I never liked the BN regional blackout while waiting for Streetcarnage to go live anyway.

And WTF with Google? It's okay to declare war on the chassid, but hipsters are off limits?

slunchy said...

i also fail to see what was so offensive about this post.

Anonymous said...

I was directed here from gawker and read your entry on Black Women. Before you roll your eyes, assuming I'm another angry "sista" just hear me out.

I always search for the opposite extreme so I can get a good perspective of both sides. For instance, if I read a liberal blog, I read a conservative blog immediately afterwards. At any rate, I have come across extreme things from all sides but I have NEVER responded to any. Ever. This is the first time I have ever responded to a blog or news website or anything. And I'm not even angry. What moved me to respond is I don't think you have been exposed to a moderate point of view. I think you have only heard from your cheerleaders or your haters. So here goes...

I know this is hella long, but please read.

If you take a look at Black people there is a broad spectrum of individuals. There are the ignorant ones that you speak of and there are educated ones. But even among the educated, you have another spectrum. The ones that don't understand that you can be pro-Black without being anti-white. The ones who live beyond their means. The ones who did not grow up around Blacks and either have a condescending attitude towards them or desperately want to fit in with them.

Here is my impression of you. You grew up around middle to upper-middle class Whites and the majority of contact you have had with Blacks have been the "sistas" and therefore in comparison you prefer those who are more "like you". However, your decisions and attitudes in life towards race have been (although reasonable) based on misleading data, and what is worse is that you have not sought out how to reevaluate on objectionable data.

The first thing to understand is it’s not about race and it’s not about money and it’s not even about education. I believe you correctly started to point that out. There are ignorant people with degrees and ignorant people with money. Black female athletes have money, but I am assuming they are too “ghetto” for your tastes. There are Black women in college who are educated but still come across as “ghetto.” By the way, I am not a fan of the words ghetto and sista. I cringe, but you seem to understand them so I shall use them.

Your problem is you are selectively choosing data that skews your conclusions. Just like in educational assessments. For example, there is overwhelming statistics out there that have concluded that Blacks are underperforming on standardized tests and therefore need additional federal funding to help them. It’s a reasonable conclusion if you look around. But they selectively picked the wrong data. Don’t get me wrong…without a doubt; Blacks at “black” schools are underperforming on standardized tests. But the statistics of Blacks at “white” schools almost always pass the standardized tests. Conclusion: they were looking at the wrong Blacks. If you look at the statistics of Whites at “black” schools or even mixed-race schools, Whites are underperforming as well.

Now on to you. I have seen and know many examples of you. You have a gigantic chip on your shoulder (with reason). You are shunned by Blacks who think you are a sell-out who hates his own Black mother. But at the same time you “prove” your Blackness (to Whites…because you could care less about the opinion of Blacks who are just hating on you) by having twists or embracing hip-hop culture. On the other hand you continue to poke fun at the ignorant Blacks who are not on your level and just don’t get it. You feel entitled to say things about Blacks that you can get away with because you are Black but then again you’re not “that Black” and you’re so brooding and deep…hence the use of the name “blognigger”. Sweetheart, you are overcompensating. Dave Chappelle stopped his show because he was overcompensating to the point where it was getting irresponsible. He was hurting himself without realizing it. He thought he was being cutting-edge and then realized he went too far and overshot it. Am I making any sense?

I am trying to convey to you that I get your angle. I see where you’re coming from. But you have to come back to the middle. Like the term I used in the beginning: a moderate point of view. I mentioned that “what is worse is that you have not sought out how to reevaluate on objectionable data.” To do that, you may have to go out of your way. Were there Black girls at your predominantly White school? How did they act? Did you avoid them so you wouldn’t be seen as “he’s only hanging out with them because they’re Black?” I am assuming you have a corporate job with majority White coworkers. Are there some Black women there with your preferences? There are exceptions, but they are typically “like you.” Basically you have to seek out the correct data and then make a decision. Keep in mind that there are a plethora of White women with the same qualities you despise, but you didn’t seek out a clip to post and represent that. You selectively picked a horrible woman to represent Black women. If you select correct data and still have your point of view, then I totally respect you for that.

I’m not saying go get a Black woman, because you are already married. But I would sincerely like for you to have a more healthy view of Black women by seeking out the ones who are like you. Sorry to write a freakin’ dissertation. Good luck.

tommy said...

@ anon 2:03pm.

Do you date skinny white guys with drug problems? Would you be willing to dress like a duck - ie., yellow outfit, duck bill - webbed feet? (don't worry I will explain later)

Cuz you gave me serious wood with your dissertation.

Anonymous said...

The sista above me says "it's not about race" and then goes on to use the word "Black" 27 times and the word "White" nine times.

Anonymous said...

no one is going to read this cuz they will never make it past the post above but.....stairway rules!!!! acting like it don't will not change that. to recap....stairway rules.

SG said...

stairway rules for sure, but when the levee breaks kills it

SG said...

also, that post was badass. to add - cynical fucks come in all kinds of hip

Ribs said...

Fuck, I just wrote out a nice, long rebuttal to BN's post that gracefully disagreed with him while praising him at the same time only to get a Google error. Fucking tits.

McSquirt said...

You are the most consistently good poster on Street Carnage. If they give you the axe for that they are closed minded and lame bitches and I'll loose a ton of respect for those fuckers.

Anonymous said...

hi bn
hey larry wessel is about to release a movie about boyd rice.
i wondered how you about that guy (hate, racism, satanism and cartman-style irony, you know)
cheers and thanks again for your work.

4skinz said...

Hey Hey Hey! :)

Can someone please explain to me what's going on? This fucking place has read like a transcript of the View for over a month now... has Obama fucked y'all up that badly!?

Obama, Black, Hipster, Kill, WAHfuckingwah....

Shit...

It's like if Stern got real popular in his Second Month and started doing PPV Butt Bongo Fiasco's at $50 a pop... diehards don't give a fuck - they just want a simple phone call to Wendy The Retard.

Donkey Kongs said...

4skins, I can explain:

You're a dickhead who wants the monkey to dance, but he's not gonna dance, because this is his life and this is where he talks about it.

I'm much happier to read about bn's real shit than some "black people on the subway always block the doors" post.

Go read streetcarnage for short attention span theater.

Wah wah wah

amelia_bedilia said...

jeez 4skins, you are a whiner!

Didn't bn just post a tyson video and Daniel Carver audio? How much more low-brow do you want?

4skinz said...

YES you two! That's exactly the type of rabble-rousing I'm looking for. But DK - i think it's inappropriate for you to be calling BN a monkey - that shit just ain't right.

Anonymous said...

Hiya BN. First time commenter here. Just thought I'd tell you that Colbert did a bit on gays vs blacks vs hipsters having a culture war just a day after your post about the exact same thing. I think its called plagiarism, but it can't be proven.

Anyhow, I'm super duper bummed that you quit Streetcarnage and I am DYING to know what transpired between you and Gavin personally, blog posts aside.

Also, you're one of my heroes now, second to Rachel Maddow. I still love SC, but I love BN more. I'm white, and when I was younger I may have been a hipster (anyone over 27 can't really claim shit because we're not cool anymore- I'm 32, ew). Does this mean that there is peace on earth?

Thanks for making me and my entire office filled with comedy writers laugh our asses off. I can't wait til you're famous.

Anonymous said...

god are you a fucking annoying cunt

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this post man. You are inspiring me to write a similar blog. I'll launch it soon when I get off my ass.

To the the gawker black girl who wrote a wall of text.

Ever notice that the black girls who are not like the "Sistas" are almost always dating white guys? Think about that.

Anonymous said...

belee dat

Anonymous said...

The only reason he quit streetcarnage is because he can't handle writing for an audience that doesn't kiss his ass. One person comes along and says "hey, despite the chorus of hosannahs, I think this guy actually kinda sucks as a writer," and the ponce falls into the worst meltdown in the history of shattered teenage girl narcissism on the internet. If he could, he'd do like them sweat pants wearing cheerleader bitches down in Florida and lock his critics up in his grandma's house and smack them around with his posse because they got lippy over on streetcarnage. What a fucking baby. Case closed.

suzieQ said...

@anon 9:51

lol you gawkerfag...
when did he ever say he quit?