Wednesday, November 5, 2008
California Blacks Demonstrate Freshly Bestowed Social Equality by Pushing the Next Niggers to the Back of the Bus
Man, it's always the same old story: as soon as a black man makes his money, he goes and gets a white girl and turns his back on the community. Tuesday night, even as the entire black population of the USA was finally being handed their collective NFL contract, black voters in California were hollerin "where the white women at?!?"
70 fucking percent of black voters in Cali voted to ban same sex marriage in this election, and that was MUCH higher than any other ethnic group. That's black people, who 50 years ago couldn't use water fountains, telling a group of people born a certain way that they can't have the right to marry and be equal.
Well, they had a good role-model: Remember that Martin Luther King's daughter is an outspoken anti-gay activist. Jesus Christ, human beings are un-fucking believable.
Now, Three things:
1) Shame on you, you close-minded unworthy scumbags.
2) This is largely the gay-rights movement's fault. I told you this would happen as a result of focusing your energy on parades starring lubed-up leather psychopaths running through the streets half-naked with dildos in their asses.
3) Gay media - get mad and stop apologizing, you politically correct idiots. Be more like Andrew Sullivan and Dan Savage, and LESS like this queer in the SF Bay Guardian.
Jesus christ that last article is unbelievable, with his excuses and apologies for these ignorant blacks!! Stop being such pussies, and stop making excuses for my ignorant people. Political Correctness is DEAD! We don't need any lenience or leeway - we have our rights - the goddamn PRESIDENT is black for chrissakes!
That felt great!!!!
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Yeah, shit rolls down hill. And speaking of shit...my new, fresh Nikes (the presidential election) are kind of fuck'd by that pit bull turd I stepped in (Cali prop 8).
If our gay brothers/sisters would just conduct a national strike (sit-in, bridge blockade, or stop making TeeVee shows and lattes), they'd get our national attention. They do that shit in France and the whole country shuts down for days.
Do that here and we'd be lining up for the privilege to marry gays and lesbians so we can watch our TeeVee shows (our stories) and drink our lattes.
I even considered divorcing my wife just so I can marry a man to prove a point (and so I'd have someone to wash the car and make me lattes).
I'm saying, y'all got your Preznigger-stop excusing your less than fine selves for all the shit ya do wrong.
One of you gets dragged behind a truck--too bad. You still commit 98% of all interracial rapes and most of the interracial murders. Yer still way more likely (by a factor of 50 or so) to have AIDS than a similarly positioned white scumbag-quit fucking each other in the ass and telling yourselves it's not happening.
Another thing--canes are not proof that you're disabled, kay? Anybody can pick one up at the RiteAid for ten bucks, that doesn't entitle em to a seat on the A train.
Not trying to harsh the sweet buzz here--I voted for the Kenyan/Indonesian Marxist/Muslim too. I'm just sayin is all.
how is it that this is a surprise to anybody? does the phrase "no homo" ring a bell?
I think so many people were so blindly focused on the presidential election that ALL the upper-tier liberal movers/shakers were working that motherfucker with all gusto.
This no-homo, racist, retarded bullshit (three states, right?) got slipped in while we were carrying Barack on our shoulders and throwing poop at John/Palin/Fey (third feces reference today, what is up?). We got the old skool bait & switch.
We may have won the presidency but we let them smart ass conservatives fuck up our party. And they're laughing their asses at us too.
Even Barack's like, "Damn you dumb motherfuckers. If I could've said something I would have but fuck if I'm fucking this up."
I'm not saying we lost this shit, alls I'm saying was nobody could focus on this with same elect Barack intensity.
Oh and you know what I read today? I read that John McCain was a prisoner of war. Had I known that shit, I'd've voted his hero ass in to the White House.
Ty is right, but there should be something more like the Stonewall Riots. Get all those fucking massive Chelsea boys to start pounding down buildings. If they started fighting, I would be hell of afraid o' the NY gays.
I knew this was going to happen.
I live in the suburbs of LA and Sodom and Gomorah it is not. These people are some racist, gun loving, plug ignorant mophobes. They are the sort of "Guns America Fuck Yeah!" school of political thinking. Add to that massive mailings that LIED about who supported this measure (including claiming that President Obama himself wanted you to vote "no"). Worse, since these cretins can hardly read, were TV ads that blared a hundred times a day that claimed that the measure would put same-sex marriage (OMG, sex!) on the Second Grade curriculum. I don't even watch TV and I heard it about 5,000 times. These adds about the crap in schools had several versions, but were all crazy. The teachers union even tried to come out (heh!) and say "no, no, the measure doesn't mean that," but they were drowned out. I was frustrated and weeping when I had to place a paper ballot, but now that I am coming down from my FIRST-BLACK-PRESIDENT high I am more ticked about my Prop 8 vote going in the trash than I am about the big vote, which THE FIRST-BLACK-PRESIDENT didn't strictly speaking really need.
I'm not even black, gay, or niggerDL and I'm frustrated with it.
You've brought your chops today, Mr. Nigger.
BN, surely this can't be your first experience with homophobia in the B/black community? My black ex-husband's father was a huge homophobe and that was just the way it was. He was all for silver rights as long as his wife had dinner on the table by 6 pm every night (ERA, what?) and there were no homos on TV. And he is an educated, middle-class, former school teacher living just outside of DC in P.G. County. He should have been as open-minded as they come.
I guess everyone picks their battles.
@owg
What could possibly make you ask, condescendingly, if this is blognigger's first experience with homophobia in the black community?
@ty: nice couple-a posts! There's a lot of people coming down off the grand preznigger effort (whoo-hoo!!!) who will be able to regroup and kick ass in other areas. I have been awed by some of the energy I saw in the last few months. Christ, I sound like one of those Boomer a-holes, don't I?
Hands down this is the best analysis I've read yet.
I remember when we went to Trinidad (the caribbean island), I saw that there was racial tension between the blacks and the browns who were living there and I didn't understand it at all. I mean coming from Canada all the coloured people back home basically saw themselves as being the same. Didn't matter if you were brown or black; in Canada if you were of colour you seemed to view other coloured people as sharing your lot in life. Coloureds in Canada were closer to each other because of the fact they were non-white, ie. part of the same minority.
Go to the caribbean though and there's tension between brown's and blacks because they aren't part of the same minority. They constitute nearly the entire islands population and so the difference between black and brown becomes pronounced to them.
I had a similar experience when I travelled again to the former Yugoslavia. To me everyone there was white and spoke the same language and I couldn't tell the fucking difference. There's no way you can differentiate a Serb from a Croat by eye or even talking to them. No chance. Serbs and Croats can't even do it sometimes. It blew my mind that to them however there were legitimate and real differences between the peoples that necessitated the war that has only recently subsided there. I know it was a religious thing, but that's another rant altogether.
The point of what I'm trying to say is that by travelling and seeing the world I've come to realize that
1.The perception of race is a social construct. Its not real. Your skin colour is a fact but the significance of what this will mean is determined by you and others. You might be black as fact in terms of colour but what being "black" means for you and others is something else entirely and it is something that can be changed because it is not the product of fact but rather perception.
2. All difference that is based on perception is created. You will see in the man standing next to you at any given time the differences you choose to see and they will matter as much as you care to make them matter. Some of these differences are perceived by the subject as being substantial, others not so substantial. To some people the colour of someone else's skin or their sexual orientation is perceived as a substantial difference that carries with it associations so negative it overwhelms the real commonality of each others shared humanity. Does this really make sense? To me it has always been plain as day that someone's race or sexual orientation really don't matter. Someone being gay doesn't impede my liberty or negatively affect my ability to assert myself as an individual in the world. So what the fuck?
Anyway sorry to eat up comment space. I will leave now by quoting something my father told me as he tried to explain the black/brown tension in Trinidad to me:
"Someone is always going to be someone else's nigger."
Of all people, I would expect blacks to understand how sad this is.
Thanks FoOl, that's a great comment.
I happen to agree with you 100%, but I'm guessing that the reason 70% black people don't understand is because they aren't seeing the issue as clearly cut as they would one about race. They feel that:
- You are born black
- You are not born gay
- Being gay is a sin (many many still feel this way)
I happen to feel as though it IS as clearly cut as an issue of race: You are CERTAINLY born gay in most instances, gimme a fuckin break.
One more thing: There's also this point going around about the mormon church's campaign to pass proposition 8 - DFA gave me a hard time this morning about omitting that detail in the post - but I feel that while mormon efforts may have increased the numbers a bit, come on - you're gonna tell me blacks aren't famous for being homophobic??? We can't hide behind the mormons on this...
There is a legal side of this argument which needs to be addressed.
I am a lawyer, but I am not experienced in discrimination cases. The best primer I can find is here:
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/epcscrutiny.htm
but this is incomplete and most other internet posting on this issue are so biased (either Christians or Gays) that they are not worth the electrons used to generate the image on your monitor.
So, here is the best I can do to explain this point.
Discrimination law arises from the Fourteenth Amendment, which guarantees equal protection under the law. However, the Supreme Court analyzes discrimination cases using 3 different tests, based on the type of group being discriminated against. Essentially, even in equal protection there is different treatment of different groups.
The categorization of groups is generally based on the 'immutability' of the characteristic as well as the level of discrimination against that group in history. Race and National origin are in the upper tier, gender is in the intermediate tier, and everything else is in the lower tier. See this wikipedia for details.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause#Carolene_Products_and_the_various_levels_of_Equal_Protection_scrutiny
The argument is that sexual preference is not 'immutable', since you can choose to suck a dick, or not (unless you are in PMITA prison). The whole 'gay gene' discussion arises from this consideration. If being gay is not choice, then the level of scrutiny may change to a more restrictive categories.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspect_class
So, blacks actually have a legitimate legal argument for voting against Prop 8. Gays are trying to achieve similar benefits under the law, yet women are not even given the same level of court scrutiny (despite gender being immutable). As such, how can gays fairly argue that they should be treated similarly or better than women (who do not have any choice whether to be in a 'suspect class').
Bottom line is that blacks are not 'pulling the ladder up from underneath them', they are simply expressing their understanding of US Supreme Court precedent in the voting booth (right? sure!).
On another note, I have to say that no one seems to have mentioned BN's citation and link to "The People Yes!" by Carl Sandberg in yesterdays' post. I had never heard of this poem before, and while the rest of you were looking up election results online, I was checking out the text and annotations to this poem. I have to say, it was an interesting perspective to juxtapose Luke Skywalker with Sandberg as the embodiment of the people's eternal effort to improve themselves by overcoming external forces which shackle their ability to seek freedom and pleasure.
In response, I think Brave New World, by Huxley, provides the counterpoint to both arguments, while still maintaining the sci-fi metaphor. In the end of Brave New World, the leader of the society, Mustpha Mond, explains that people will not rise up when their base needs are generally satisfied, thereby allowing the powerful to continue exploiting them further.
Will our future be a world where we are all soma addicts (esp if weed becomes legal) and lose the drive which got us here in the first place? Or will we just wait for the sequel when the empire tries to rebuild the death star (i.e. Palin 2012)? I'm looking forward to witnessing the answer, as I don't have to listen to any more Ewok music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5XG1nSlxuI&feature=related
Yub nub, homeslice.
@knickerbocker
whether or not that was the best comment in the history of this blog is subjective...
Suffice it to say though, that you've made my day, and made all the hate mail worthwhile.
Thanks BN. You just made my day too.
Just to tie everything up with a bow, when I was looking for the Ewok song, I found a translation of the lyrics, which seems to share common themes with "The People Yes!" and would have also made a great group song for Tuesday night's street parties. nJoy.
from
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=713658
Freedom
We got freedom
And now that we can be free
Come on and celebrate
Power
We got power
And now that we can be free
It's time to celebrate
Celebrate the freedom
Celebrate the power
Celebrate the glory
Celebrate the love
Power
We got power
And now that we can be free
It's time to celebrate
Celebrate the light (freedom!)
Celebrate the night (power!)
Celebrate the fight (glory!)
Glory
We found glory
The power showed us the light
And now we all live free
Celebrate the love
Celebrate the love
Celebrate the love!
@ Knickerbocker:
Indeed, lost in all of the past two days was the poignant:
"The people know the salt of the sea and the strength of the winds lashing the corners of the earth.
The people take the earth as a tomb of rest and a cradle of hope.
Who else speaks for the Family of Man?"
Our future will indeed be divided and race isn't gonna be the primary driver. It won't be sexuality or orientation either. It will be self-fulfilling function based on education and income (just had this discussion with a Berkeley/GAO economist yesterday -- we were trying to map that shit out on Panera Bread napkins).
Knickerbocker, thanks for whipping this back to base. I did happen to click that Sandburg link. You're worth every penny of your retainer, counselor.
why the fuck does anyone get married?!! specially fags - they can get ass constantly. i don't get it.
me personally, i like fucking who i want without risking being sued (that's what divorce is kiddos, technically a lawsuit).
ps: the fact that its still permissible to deny homosexuals legal rights drives me up a wall...totally ridic and unfair.
Ok, piping up: I *do* think its unfair to have this discussion without really addressing the Mormon factor.
I am not, by any means, saying that there isn't homophobia amongst black people, but I ain't black so I don't really know (I'm a jew scum nyc elitist who's not even a "real" american...and we love teh gays). However, it has been reported that up to 77% of the money spent on Yes on Prop 8 advertising came from the Mormon church...and out-of-state donations. They were pouring MILLIONS of dollars into a 24/7 ad campaign that rivaled Obama's in its deftness and (as @annazed so aptly said this included horrendous, lie-filled, hate mongering bullshit like OBAMA WANTS YOU TO VOTE YES ON PROP 8 mailers).
Had this all gone down without the mormons, most motherfuckers would have probably never even *heard* of prop 8. Again, I'm not saying that prejudice does not exist but come on...they had a HUGE role in ensuring the passage of this bullshit piece of legislation, ensuring that 52% of prejudiced and misinformed CA residents (of all colors and creeds) sent along a big fat fuck you to gay couples AND to our motherfucking constitution.
Jus sayin.
Go figure, whitey doesn't have the market cornered on stupid biases. At least home grown blecks are rarely actively violent toward the gheys - unlike their west indian cuzzes. You should have seen the bullshit tv Pro 8 ads. "They're going to teach CHILDREN about the fact that gays exist," basically...
I don't get how faggottry has become the electric rabbit at the greyhound race of fundamentalist retardation. Wedge issue of them all. The fundies come here in SF to the Folsom Street fair and other likely Fetes of fanny fisting, felching and likewise to get b roll of the coming Babylon come pass the plate time on their shows...
Guess you gotta be Biblestupid to get it... sure butt sex can be icky, but how this gets the christers as riled as abortion - which at least has a coherent, if wrongheaded, argument - is beyond me
Oh ferdydurke, fuck off you incomprehensible self-righteous douche.
hehe @ cuntymcstevens - cuntymcstevens ftw!
Great thread.
@knickerbocker, the information on equal protection and immutability was extremely engaging and informative. Thanks! (I can't give you any praise that will make you feel any better than BN already has :0 )
@Dear Famous A$$hole, the mormons were absolutely evil, but they can't excuse the residents of California, black or white or brown.
It's everyone's job to BE INFORMED, and if anything, it's MORE offensive to suggest that black people are that easily brain-washable. believe me, they knew what they were doing.
However, I do love your blog so it's nice meet you!
Knickerbocker, in 1992 Colorado voters passed Amendment 2, "an amendment to the state constitution repealing all existing civil rights protections for gays in the state and prohibiting them in the future." In 1993 the case went before the U.S. Supreme Court as Romer vs Evans "which held that the measure unconstitutionally denied gays the equal protection of the laws."
I don't understand how marriage falls out of equal protection. When you take away all of the BS religious arguments and the biases about children needing a mother and a father, blah, blah, blah, aren't you left with, what is essentially a legal contract that guarantees such things as hospital access and estate successor rights, etc? How can that contract fall out of the umbrella of equal protection? Or maybe the question is how is it legal to discriminate on what is obviously religious and personal bias? Is it now up to a private citizen in California to sue the state and take it to the Supreme Court the way it was done in Colorado? And does the ruling in Colorado have any bearing on this decision in California?
@ donkey k
I'm pretty sure BN can handle anything I can dish out.
Super bummed that 8 passed. Still have the No to 8 posted up on the house. No I'm not gay.
right. everybody wants to be an upper middle class straight white male. and so live their lives doing things to make that happen or doing things to rebel against the desire.
white people say, "that obama, he's just like us. if you close your eyes, you can't even tell he's black."
so black men white themselves up. they acquire white trappings and are allowed in, even if they only get the lifetime specialvisitor's pass. you yourself have acknowledged the superstar phenomenon. and if they rage against it, they become thug.
gay men are allowed in by and large by acting straight and, more often than not, hiding their sexuality. and if they rage against it, they become queens.
women are at the bottom of the pile. they can't hide their gender either, much as they'd like to. i've yet to witness one getting a special visitor's pass either. hillary came close but she was put in her place quickly. and sarah palin? god, it was like a feeding frenzy and there is NO WAY anyone is going to convince me that it was due, in large part, to her political/religious beliefs. no fucking way. that was pure fear.
there is a special kind of loathing and fear reserved for women and that won't be changing anytime soon. the lat time it was cool to be female was right before ancient greek civilization.
much as i sympathize w/gays, blacks, whatever your oppression - and i do - i remain staggered by the way the world treats women, and the way women treat each other.
"women are the niggers of the world" - john lennon
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